Editing Talk:United Kingdom (section)

== UK being known as Britain ==

The first few lines mention the United Kingdom being known as Britain, but this is simply not true. Britain is known as Great Britain which is the 3 countries on the island. United Kingdom is the 3 countries and Northern Island. Britain is not the UK as they involve different countries. Could someone please remove the “known as Britain” part. As Great Britain, also known as Britain, is the correct term. Not the UK being known as Britain. [[User:DigAPony96|DigAPony96]] ([[User talk:DigAPony96|talk]]) 12:34, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:DigAPony96|DigAPony96]]: Did you read the note attached to the word '''Britain'''? It says 
:'Usage is mixed. The ''[https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-observer-style-guide-u Guardian]'' and ''[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/style-book/places-and-people Telegraph]'' use ''Britain'' as a synonym for the United Kingdom. Some prefer to use ''Britain'' as shorthand for [[Great Britain]]. The British [[Cabinet Office]]'s [[Government Digital Service]] [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/style-guide/a-to-z-of-gov-uk-style#great-britain style guide] for use on [[gov.uk]] recommends: "Use UK and United Kingdom in preference to Britain and British (UK business, UK foreign policy, ambassador and high commissioner). But British embassy, not UK embassy."'
:So two [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] use ''Britain'' to mean the United Kingdom which means that, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, your assertion of that being a falsehood is itself untrue. [[User:Bazza_7|Bazza&nbsp;<span style="color:grey">7</span>]] ([[User_talk:Bazza_7|talk]]) 13:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
::News outlets get a lot of information wrong. So that’s not the best valuable source. Also a simple google of “The Guardian Britain news” and it will show “UK news” as the headline. Also the government website is correct. British embassy as it is the British isles. British and Britain are different again, and not the same. As those from Northern Island can choose to be known as Irish OR British. But of course Northern Island in GB but it is part of the British Isles. Just because a few people regularly interchange them wrongly does not mean it to be correct. Gov website is the best source as you’ve proved. UK is not Britain. [[User:DigAPony96|DigAPony96]] ([[User talk:DigAPony96|talk]]) 08:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
:::But of course Northern Island isn’t in GB* [[User:DigAPony96|DigAPony96]] ([[User talk:DigAPony96|talk]]) 08:54, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
::::<small>But what about Northern Ireland? [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 23:15, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::@[[User:DigAPony96|DigAPony96]]: You might want to read the referenced {{section link|Terminology of the British Isles|Britain}}. [[User:Bazza_7|Bazza&nbsp;<span style="color:grey">7</span>]] ([[User_talk:Bazza_7|talk]]) 10:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
:Both "Britain" and "Great Britain" have historically been used as short forms for the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", that is an encyclopaedic fact. However, as both have other common meanings too, they can be ambiguous, so, per [[WP:Ambiguous words]], need to be avoided except in quotations. "United Kingdom" or "UK" should be used in normal prose when it is the whole sovereign country that is is being discussed. -- [[User:DeFacto|<span style="color:#3366CC;">DeFacto</span>]] ([[User Talk:DeFacto|talk]]). 09:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)